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Annual Update 2020

Nestling in the foothills of the Lancashire Pennines, in Shaw, Dog Hill is a brilliant local asset situated on the edge of the moors, perfect for walking and other outdoor activities. Our Centre offers activities to young people from across North Manchester and beyond.
We are aiming to improve the infrastructure of the site (access / reclamation of footpaths / creating defined tent pitches) giving Oldham a fit-for purpose, accessible outdoor activity centre which delivers opportunities for young people to achieve a greater breadth and depth of learning and enjoyment than can be delivered from normal weekly scout group activities.

  • Somewhere people can escape from their
    urban surroundings and encounter a diversity
    of wild plants and animals
  • A destination for school groups to come and
    explore nature and the diverse habitats that the
    site offers
  • Somewhere children are safe to have fun and
    play with friends with no risk of harm –
    providing the parents with peace of mind

Our vision is that Dog Hill activity centre and
campsite will be:

  • A site where children can have fun and learn about
    their heritage and gain skills
  • A base to explore the surrounding countryside for

    walks, canoeing and climbing.

  • A site that can be camped on safely with all the


  • A place to learn new skills in a safe environment
  • Somewhere that offers peace and tranquillity, and meets local people’s recreational and educational


  • Biodiverse where nature is allowed to thrive without the risk of development

    Our future plans include:

  • Keep the bunkhouse in regular use through the setting up of an explorers unit to be
    based from this location on a permanent basis
  • Develop several circular hiking routes from the bunkhouse and actively market the
    offer to scouts and explorers, local DoE participating schools.
  • Archery range / rifle range / 5 a side football field
  • Bush craft training base
  • Centre for district outdoor events, group camps, district events days, bonfire night,
    bush craft, backwoods cooking, dark skies events etc.

Dog Hill Scout Camp a self-financing Site

Raising £38,513.09 spent on developing the site since 2005.

5 Year Plan (Draft) (items in green completed)

3 Month Plan

  1. to constitute the Dog Hill Committee as discussed with last year with the leaders of the expedition hike.
  2. Re introduce the Permit to Camp form, which has to be sanctioned by the District commissioner and set up the visitors book
  3. Repair the mower & strimmer.
  4. Remove all scrap from site. (5 tip trips)
  5. Fit roof to Porta Cabin so tools & equipment can stay dry. (Wood etc acquired & taken up to site) Half completed, finish October.
  6. Acquire quote for putting in water pipe from stream. ( the £14.000,00 quoted a few years back to get water from the road, too expensive Would need re quoting and would need external support as would stream and purifying. As like the past 17 years, I will continue to take barrels of water to the site.
  7. Maintain mowing & strimming programme. Weed killing
  8. Host the expedition hike.
  9. Re-Launch as a Bunkhouse/Activity centre not a camp site. (people can camp but aim camping at scouts-explorers-network and day activities at Beavers & Cubs)
  10. DBS all current Volunteers. (half done)
  11. New treasurer to change electric tariff.
  12. Fence paint the picnic tables
  13. Continue to develop the Archery Range & 5 a side football field.
  14. Drop the small fire circle to 2’. And fire cement it. Surplus rocks to go in dry stone wall in car park, ashes to be spread amongst trees, Metal to be put in scrap bag. Remove the seating rocks from around fire.
  15. Take up carpet tiles in Bunkhouse & replace with new.
  16. Restack the wood pile.
  17. Repair cargo net. (Vandalised)
  18. Replace Kitchen Light.
  19. Zip Line ( half completed) Landing platforms to be built out of donated decking. Ground to be levelled off and Donated crash mats to be laid.
  20. Lay concrete on the road. 10 yards done. Pick up donated Cement Mixer from clitherow. Transport to site 70 miles.
  21. Replace Bunkhouse Lights with donated LED.

6 Month Plan

  1. Put on a Series of Activities Aimed at Re-Popularising the Site that are low cost and low financial risk but provide maximum enjoyment for the young members. There are many badge ideas that can be done in our outdoor space at dog hill. Our young members love the space we have so once the badgework is out of the way they can play while the leaders relax! Continue the whippet planting by cubs & scouts.

1a. DIY Badge – Birdboxes – we can use the reclaimed wood we get donated to create the rspb template birdbox.

1b. Bushcraft. many options available

1c. Dam building. down in the bottom of the valley

1d. Hammocking – very popular at the moment and the wooded area is ideal

1e Continue the whippet planting by cubs & scouts.

1f. Paint Bunkhouse door.

1g. Erect the 2nd Trespass sign.

1h. Put up dummy CCTV cameras.

  1. Water, Its imperative to have clean water on site and we should Aim to have this functional for the start of the 2020 camping season.
  2. Sanitation. Septic needs fixing or replacing
  3. Re-marketing Reputation. The historical bad PR from District has to stop many of the new leaders only opinion of dog hill is what they have heard from old leaders based on their worst experiences over the last 100 years. Get the newer leaders on site in a positive situation. Encourage Oldham District groups to commit to at least 1 camp a year to provide the funds to develop the site.
  4. Surround compound with Reed fencing and plant Ivy.
  5. Contact District approved past Campers and hirers to secure bookings for 2020. this will give us a safe budget to work with
  6. Review Pricing – Scouting is exceptionally cheap compared with the other activities our young people have access to. Introduce discounts for hard up groups.
  7. Focus maintenance on the core of the site, only undertaking new projects when the labour is in place.
  8. Reach out to external organisations to get work done, EG Community Payback, Princes Trust, Groundwork ETC

Year 1 (2020)

  1. Put on badges above – 2 groups have already agreed to try – we will use these as tests and once we have done it once and got some pics it should be easier to market it to district/county and beyond.
  2. Market the site as a bunkhouse activity centre using historical bookers.
  3. Keep on top of existing Maintenance ensuring we focus on the core.
  4. Get a grant to replace internals of toilet block.
  5. Construct a semi permanent large sheltered area to weatherproof the bookings
  6. Build links with the owners of brushes clough reservoir with a view to have canoeing. We had permission from NWWA.
  7. Lay 2 concrete tracks on road to carpark.

Year 2-5 (2021-25)

  1. Build on bookings year on year by maintaining links with successful bookings Aiming to generate repeat bookings for the same activity every 2 years as the kids in the beavers and cubs sections will all be new.
  2. Re-visit pricing annually ensuring our income covers our expenditure with a view to re-invest every penny into the site
  3. Switch to renewable energy – make a big deal of it with the young members and Local press and if we switch power to solar we would be entirely self sufficient for water and energy with only servicing costs to consider.
  4. Create more Camping areas
  5. In 2024 the Dog Hill Committee should review the progress made since 2019 with a view to making a recommendation to the district exec on its own future.development

Beyond 2025

  1. Look to increase the Land holding making strategic land purchases to improve the value of the site, this could incorporate existing structures to improve our building portfolio.
  2. Build a Barn – A Large “Barn/HayLoft” type construction should get planning permission and  we could put all the mowers, tractors and Activity equipment inside alongside a climbing wall – high ropes loft,
  3. Get a lottery grant to replace the old bunkhouse with a bigger more modern structure.





Ted’s Story

The story follows a young person’s journey through the movement, also showing how his family gets involved, including how his father becomes an adult volunteer. We hope it will raise awareness of Scouts as a way to gain skills for life and encourage more adults to volunteer too.


Training Team Newsletter Issue 3 – July to September 2019

Details of all upcoming training courses are shown on the last page, including Young Leader Training and Fast Track 9.  But we are also putting on sessions on things such as “How to complete a DBS for someone” and “How to make the most of OSM”

Following responses from when I sent out Issues 1 and 2 I did inform the relevant Districts to remove those of you who stated you were no longer involved in Scouting so I am hoping you don’t get it this time 😊.  However, there may now be more of you no longer involved.  If this applies to you please let me know and I can arrange to get your details removed from the system.

One of the frequent responses I got from the last two newsletters, was that people getting these emails weren’t leaders, they were parent helpers.  You will be receiving this email as you are down as an Occasional Helper with the group/section and will have gone through the DBS process, therefore your details are on the system and this email goes to every adult registered within Greater Manchester North.  Please don’t panic and think we are going to force you into attending training, however if you feel you would like to take take on a different role, such as Sectional Assistant, please let your Section Leaders know and they can point you in the right direction.

Further to this, if you hear anyone saying they haven’t received the email, can you please advise them to check their email address on Compass.  I know we have over 130 leaders registered on the system without email addresses!

Stacey White

Course Administrator



Scouts & Explorers District Camp
13th – 15th September 2019
Giants seat Scout Camp

We are planning a Scout district camp on 13th -15th September at Giants Seat scout Camp

The camp is planned as a back to basics and scouting skills camp where scouts/explorers will set up camp, cook for themselves, learn some basic scouting skills, build a bivvy (hope to sleep in it). It will not be an activity based camp. But it should be fun and a chance to learn new skills.

The cost of the camp is £40 this will include transport to and from camp.

A £10 deposit is required for the 19th July with the balance payable for the 9th September

All monies returned to your group leaders please in an envelope with childs name on

For more info contact Barry

Flamingo Land Trip 5th October 2019
We have a trip to Flamingo Land on Saturday 5th October for cubs, scouts.
The cost of the trip is £40 each this covers the cost of the transport and ticket price.
Please could you return the slip below with £10 deposit before 19th July with final payment by the 20th September.
Meeting details will be sent out nearer the date on the day you will need

• Cubs & Scouts & Explorers need to be in uniform
• a waterproof coat
• A packed lunch with drinks, all in disposable containers (saves carrying all day)
• Spending monies max £10 everything is expensive
• Beavers and Cubs will be with leaders during the day. Scouts will be allowed to go in small groups so we need Scouts to bring a mobile phone with credit on if they have one so they can stay in contact with leaders during the day.
• Please provide any medication needed for travel sickness or any other condition

For more info contact Barry


Scouts & Explorers Alton Towers Trip

Sunday 22nd September 2019

We have a trip planned to Alton Towers for Scouts and Explorers on Sunday 22nd September. The cost of the trip is £45 per person this includes coach travel, entrance ticket and a uniform T-shirt for the day. Our visit is on Alton towers uniformed organisation day. On previous trips the park has been relatively quiet with small queues on rides (although not guaranteed)

Once at the park Scouts and explorers will be allowed to roam around the park in a minimum of 2s, we will require a contact number to contact each person in the park on the day and an emergency number for home contact. Each scout & explorer will be shown our meeting point that will be manned all day and will be expected to either report there at a specified time.

Packed lunches or money for refreshments will be required and suitable clothing for the days weather.

Scouts and Explorers will be expected to wear their uniform t-shirt and neckerchief throughout the day.

If you wish to reserve a place on the trip please return the form below to your leaders or myself before the 26th July with a £20 non refundable deposit with final payment due by 13th September. Any late bookings the price will be increased in line with Alton Towers Ticket prices ticket prices.

First come first reserved there are limited seats on the coach.

please contact Barry for more info


Training Newsletter Issue 2

The Regional Inclusion Team want to know what training on Inclusion you would find helpful. They have put together a short survey (it really is a 20 second job!) asking what training you want and what area you are in. Click on the link below and make sure your voice is heard! The survey will close at the end of May and they will then arrange training in the most high priority areas.

Inclusion Survey:

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Sunday 31st March 2019– The Peelers’ Hike, Scout entries

23 or 15 miles from Bury and Ramsbottom District Scout HQ, Millett Street, Bury, BL9 0HQ (GR SD 798 106) via Elton Reservoir, Affetside, Peel Tower, Holcombe Moor, Helmshore, Irwell Vale, Summerseat and Burrs country park. 15 mile route omits Holcombe Moor, Helmshore and Irwell Vale. Start times – 8.00 am for walkers; 9.30 am for runners and those on the shorter walk – Entries in advance £9.00, including refreshments at some CPs; hot meal at finish, certificate and badge. Organised by and cheques to Bury & Ramsbottom Scout District. Contact Paul Raine, 13, Kinloch Drive, Bolton, BL1 4LZ (tel. 01204 494572).

The 15 mile route is suitable for older scouts and Explorer scouts although in poor weather conditions the route will be reduced and adjusted. There is of course opportunity to retire at most of the check points when transport back to the start will be arranged. Places should, if possible be booked in advance although with prior arrangement payment can be made of the day.

Celebrating Excellence

It is the County’s aim to recognise and celebrate all those young people who have earned the TOP Award in their section by immediately sending a letter of congratulation and inviting them to a special Day of Excellence event to receive a unique County Certificate celebrating their achievement in front of their parents etc.

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